25. No One Gives a Crap About Hollywood. Also Jon Sings Weezer. (Feat. Bryce McGuire)


We're back in the studio with Bryce (the creepy basement for Jon) talking about how to stay grounded in the pursuit of greatness. We also get a special treat: Jon sings for the first (and possibly last) time.



Sermon Series on the book of Ecclesiastes by Rankin Wilbourne (Pacific Crossroads Church)

Momentum Mori- Prince of Orange 

Pyramids in Mexico/ Zay’s tattoo

Night Swim comes to life

James Wan backs Night Swim

Another short accepted by Amblin Entertainment- Bryce is writing for Stevie

Bryce's Script “The White Room”- The Blood list

“Florida Man”

Mark Johnson

Milton Berle pranks Zay

Credits and Personal Links:

A Mama Bear Studios Production // Mama Bear Studios’ Website

Produced and edited by: Isaiah Smallman

Executive Producer: Jon Schimpf

Opening music: "The Get Down," Produced by Summer Dregs

Cover Art by: Nate Giordano

Show Website | ThatWay.fm

Show Twitter | @ThatWayPod

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