8. What's the Point of Making a Movie? Is it Worth the Risk? // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 5


It's time for a little existential crisis check-in. How do you know when it's time to move on from a project? How do you plan for the future without losing sight of the present? And what does it feel like to invite judgment? Jon and Zay get pretty deep in this one, but don't worry! It's still fun.



The Donner Party on Wikipedia

Chive TV

20:00 Zay doesn’t want to make what he doesn't want to make. And yes he realizes how spoiled that makes him.

Walker Percy On Wikipedia // The Second Coming (1980) on Amazon

“How did it happen that now he could see everything so clearly. Something had given him leave to live in the present. Not once in his entire life had he come to rest in the quiet center of himself but had forever cast himself from some dark past he could not remember to a future that did not exist. Not once had he been present for his life. So his life had passed like a dream. Is it possible for people to miss their lives the way one can miss a plane?” - The Second Coming 

A Confederacy of Dunces on Wikipedia // By John Kennedy Toole // Buy it on Amazon

Fellini on Wikipedia

48:00 - Isaiah and Jon get real about if they have (thus far) done their lives "right."

Submit your answers to the "did you do life the right way" discussion!

Credits and Personal Links:

A Mama Bear Studios Production // Mama Bear Studios’ Website

Produced and Edited by: Isaiah Smallman

Executive Producer: Jon Schimpf

Opening music: "The Get Down," Produced by Summer Dregs

Outro music: Composed and Recorded by Tom Paulus and Max Belz

Cover Art by: Nate Giordano


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